The bot problem - Guild Wars Forums

Haloknight9 · Jul 14, 2005, 08:01 AM // 08:01

I find it intresting that alot of people bash on people that go out and mass kill stuff for loot. I for one, like to farm becuase its fun and addicting sometimes and gets me money in the process. But the recent inflood of bots are really starting to peeve me off, as it should. Becuase I go out and legitimately farm(you know, point click, point click, actually play the game), not activate a bot and go to sleep. These guys get away with doing this and ruin farming spots every week. Anyone else think this is becoming a problem?

*looks at the never ending stream of jerky-trailed characters heading towards a current popular krytan farming spot*

Witchblade · Jul 14, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09

It seemed to me that bot are quite nicely taken care of, that s not the case for most games

That's also what happen when u don't keep ur secret farming spot for urself

Most ppl r posting things like "WAAAAW I FOUND BUGGED CHEST" etc
Hard to do a thing against stupid ppl ^^

Haloknight9 · Jul 14, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14

wish they were taken care of a little bit more lol. seeing all these characters follow the excact same trail and jerm around makes it obvious lol.

but yep, thats what happens....

Witchblade · Jul 14, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

That will always be like that in all online games i think

Hopefully, there s no "tradehack" or crap of some sort except bots atm..
That kinda thing is worse than botting

Nikki Scott · Jul 14, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22

I'm not quite getting your complaint... how do you know its a bot if the game starts with only your group...? and furthermore... I pretty much run the exact same route everytime I farm, just because well, its the quickest and easiest way to kill the monsters I want to kill

Haloknight9 · Jul 14, 2005, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Ok, the complaint is that people use programs called bots, to run thier character automaticly and farm, this is retarded and ruins the economy for the people that legitimately play the game. What i meant on taking the same route is that some programs (know some knowlege of programing) can be programed to do point to point(a to b) mapping. Its funny that you can stand in a district and watch a player reapear then suddenly jerk to the same "spots" that he or she did before ( i know it may seem lame that i took the time to observe this but humor me). thats how i tell they are bots. some are more evident than others as some peoples characters jerk back and forth trying to get to a point. Thats what i meant same route, "exact pinpointed steps".

Edit: please tell me if i explained that correctly

Nikki Scott · Jul 14, 2005, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Ah.. -Shrugs- Yea, I see your point, but a lot of the economy is already shot when a clean fellblade with a good req is 2k, and its no better than a shortsword..

Haloknight9 · Jul 14, 2005, 08:44 AM // 08:44

yeah, but i can see why they may make a different shortsword(or another low end looking weapon) be about the same as a fellblade, so you dont get bored with the scenery seeing 50 people running around with the same weapon :P

rotor · Jul 14, 2005, 09:16 AM // 09:16

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Originally Posted by Haloknight9

yeah, but i can see why they may make a different shortsword(or another low end looking weapon) be about the same as a fellblade, so you dont get bored with the scenery seeing 50 people running around with the same weapon :P

You mean that the fiery sword is not the only sword in game?

Shandoo Bilari · Jul 14, 2005, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Dont worry your pretty little head about bots, its not your job.

Master Of Disharmony · Jul 14, 2005, 11:46 AM // 11:46

So but be sure. Those Places are now "modified", so they wont drop any "gold" items more.

Of course, maybe they know other Places, but the best 2 for lvl20s are "clsoed".

Torkemada · Jul 14, 2005, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari

Dont worry your pretty little head about bots, its not your job.

Its every good gamer problem to mind about bots, hacking, scamming and any other forms of taking advantage of ppl, game desing or bugs. Its usually easy to detect a bot, as our friend said, cos u can watch em move from point to point, and if u take the time to wait in a town that has 3 or 4 districts only (yeah i've done it too) u can see the same char, enter time after time and reapeat the same routine inside town. They are even adding now some random chat words to the bots so they can avoid being detected so easily.
When im really suspicious i report, char name, place, day and a screenshot of the probable bot, and Anet checks the log on that player to search for botting patterns.

Atm its the best we can do.

Brother Torkemada

Silmor · Jul 14, 2005, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari

Dont worry your pretty little head about bots, its not your job.

Neither is playing the game, but we do it anyway. Tackling the bot problem may not be our job (and is out of our hands anyway), but people can worry about it as much as they please.

Bots only serve one purpose: earning money, for whatever purposes. The problem with that is that if bots earn money 24/7 in a way that is significantly more efficient than how most people play the game, anyone that is NOT using a bot will soon be left behind in the economy. Which in turn makes people give up on trying to earn gold themselves, instead buying it on eBay or something. Which is the very thing that fuels the botters, and things spiral down from there.

I think the only ones that don't need to worry their pretty little heads about bots are the botters themselves. So explain your side, please? I'm interested to learn how you can casually shrug them away.

Torkemada · Jul 14, 2005, 12:04 PM // 12:04

I'm as interested as Silmor... please do explain...

Tks Silmor, i agree totally with ur point as i stated also.

Haloknight9 · Jul 14, 2005, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Silmor

Neither is playing the game, but we do it anyway. Tackling the bot problem may not be our job (and is out of our hands anyway), but people can worry about it as much as they please..

Your right silmor, and we should be worrying about it. After all its magnificently widening the gap between the poor people/the people that are legitimately farming from the people that are cheating to do it. Yes, thats right, bots are cheats. And anyone that doesn't beleive me, pull up that nice list of guidelines that you say you agree to when you install the game. Botters should be banned for violating those guidelines, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Silmor

Bots only serve one purpose: earning money, for whatever purposes. The problem with that is that if bots earn money 24/7 in a way that is significantly more efficient than how most people play the game, anyone that is NOT using a bot will soon be left behind in the economy. Which in turn makes people give up on trying to earn gold themselves, instead buying it on eBay or something. Which is the very thing that fuels the botters, and things spiral down from there...

Excactly! Its a 'fact' that it kills the game economy. People can argue all they want against this, but it still remains a proven fact.

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Originally Posted by Silmor

I think the only ones that don't need to worry their pretty little heads about bots are the botters themselves. So explain your side, please? I'm interested to learn how you can casually shrug them away.

Well the way he put it.... i wouldn't be surprised if he used a bot... so yes.... please explain

Sofonisba · Jul 14, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I'll just throw this out there...

I think that Shandoo was just observing that there are a lot of complaints about bots, but Anet is attempting to do all they can to stop it and resume the fair play, so more complaining and more threads about botting will not help.

I could be off-track but that is how I read his post.

Nikki Scott · Jul 14, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30

What areas were edited? I'm curious myself so I don't waste my legitimate farming efforts.. feel free to PM them to me if you like

Haloknight9 · Jul 14, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Pm me too, please.

Jul 14, 2005, 08:01 AM // 08:01	#1
Haloknight9 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	The bot problem I find it intresting that alot of people bash on people that go out and mass kill stuff for loot. I for one, like to farm becuase its fun and addicting sometimes and gets me money in the process. But the recent inflood of bots are really starting to peeve me off, as it should. Becuase I go out and legitimately farm(you know, point click, point click, actually play the game), not activate a bot and go to sleep. These guys get away with doing this and ruin farming spots every week. Anyone else think this is becoming a problem? looks at the never ending stream of jerky-trailed characters heading towards a current popular krytan farming spot Last edited by Haloknight9; Jul 14, 2005 at 08:05 AM // 08:05..

Jul 14, 2005, 08:31 AM // 08:31	#6
Haloknight9 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	Ok, the complaint is that people use programs called bots, to run thier character automaticly and farm, this is retarded and ruins the economy for the people that legitimately play the game. What i meant on taking the same route is that some programs (know some knowlege of programing) can be programed to do point to point(a to b) mapping. Its funny that you can stand in a district and watch a player reapear then suddenly jerk to the same "spots" that he or she did before ( i know it may seem lame that i took the time to observe this but humor me). thats how i tell they are bots. some are more evident than others as some peoples characters jerk back and forth trying to get to a point. Thats what i meant same route, "exact pinpointed steps". Edit: please tell me if i explained that correctly Last edited by Haloknight9; Jul 14, 2005 at 08:33 AM // 08:33..

Jul 14, 2005, 08:44 AM // 08:44	#8
Haloknight9 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	yeah, but i can see why they may make a different shortsword(or another low end looking weapon) be about the same as a fellblade, so you dont get bored with the scenery seeing 50 people running around with the same weapon :P Last edited by Haloknight9; Jul 14, 2005 at 08:46 AM // 08:46..

Jul 14, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#2
Witchblade Polar Bear Attendant Join Date: May 2005	It seemed to me that bot are quite nicely taken care of, that s not the case for most games That's also what happen when u don't keep ur secret farming spot for urself Most ppl r posting things like "WAAAAW I FOUND BUGGED CHEST" etc Hard to do a thing against stupid ppl ^^

Jul 14, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14	#3
Haloknight9 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	wish they were taken care of a little bit more lol. seeing all these characters follow the excact same trail and jerm around makes it obvious lol. but yep, thats what happens....

Jul 14, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17	#4
Witchblade Polar Bear Attendant Join Date: May 2005	That will always be like that in all online games i think Hopefully, there s no "tradehack" or crap of some sort except bots atm.. That kinda thing is worse than botting

Jul 14, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#5
Nikki Scott Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Knights of the Three Eyes Profession: W/Mo	I'm not quite getting your complaint... how do you know its a bot if the game starts with only your group...? and furthermore... I pretty much run the exact same route everytime I farm, just because well, its the quickest and easiest way to kill the monsters I want to kill

Jul 14, 2005, 08:35 AM // 08:35	#7
Nikki Scott Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Knights of the Three Eyes Profession: W/Mo	Ah.. -Shrugs- Yea, I see your point, but a lot of the economy is already shot when a clean fellblade with a good req is 2k, and its no better than a shortsword..

Jul 14, 2005, 11:11 AM // 11:11	#10
Shandoo Bilari Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: NoVa Guild: Dark Brotherhood Profession: Mo/	Dont worry your pretty little head about bots, its not your job.

Jul 14, 2005, 11:46 AM // 11:46	#11
Master Of Disharmony Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Europe Guild: Save Imperium Profession: W/N	So but be sure. Those Places are now "modified", so they wont drop any "gold" items more. Of course, maybe they know other Places, but the best 2 for lvl20s are "clsoed".

Jul 14, 2005, 12:04 PM // 12:04	#14
Torkemada Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Argentina Guild: EC - The Epic Crusade Profession: Mo/Me	I'm as interested as Silmor... please do explain... Tks Silmor, i agree totally with ur point as i stated also.

Jul 14, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19	#16
Sofonisba Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]	I'll just throw this out there... I think that Shandoo was just observing that there are a lot of complaints about bots, but Anet is attempting to do all they can to stop it and resume the fair play, so more complaining and more threads about botting will not help. I could be off-track but that is how I read his post.

Jul 14, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#17
Nikki Scott Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Knights of the Three Eyes Profession: W/Mo	What areas were edited? I'm curious myself so I don't waste my legitimate farming efforts.. feel free to PM them to me if you like

Jul 14, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#18
Haloknight9 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	Pm me too, please.